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Some thoughts prompted by Channel 4’s 50 Greatest Comedy Films, shown last night:

No point in bemoaning the choices – that’s in the nature of these lists – but the order of Mel Brooks’ films was exactly backwards. The Producers (no. 50) was his best by far. Young Frankenstein (no. 20) had it’s moments, but not many of them. Blazing Saddles (no 8) – well, farting is intrinsically humourous, so it takes a special kind of genius to have a whole scene devoted to farting (the cowboys round the campfire) which is completely and totally unfunny.

Like most of my generation I have a special fondness for the Carry On films. How can you go wrong with a cast list including greats like Kenneth Williams, Sid James, Charles Hawtree, Hattie Jacques? Yet a problem arises when you lower your gaze from that great Platonic Carry on film and actually start to watch a particular example: you’ll find after 10 minutes that it’s virtually unwatchable. Every discussion of the Carry Ons will quote the old line, “Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me”, simply because it’s the only decent joke in the whole series.

The comments from talking heads are nearly always a waste of time, but there’s usually one commenter who stands out as particularly useless, and this time we got another celebrity who’s spent far too much time and money being psychoanalysed: the once great Gene Wilder. No, we don’t want to hear yet again how comedy is a powerful weapon against evils like Nazism.

The original ground-breaker for the whole lamentable Richard Curtis Brit-comedies-aimed-at-the-American-market was A Fish Called Wanda. How did Cleese and co. aim to attract those US dollars? By having a couple of British grotesques – Cleese as his usual upper-middle class pompous repressed idiot, and Michael Palin as a stuttering pathetic working class inadequate – come up against a couple of vibrant and neurosis-free Americans, prompting the Cleese character to declaim on how wonderful Americans are, and how pathetic we English are by comparison. Yes, it did well at the US box office. Imagine France, say, coming up with a comedy aimed at the US market about a couple of French grotesques – a womanising buffoon with personal hygiene problems, perhaps, who runs away at the first sign of trouble, and an intellectual who smokes gauloises non-stop, and lectures on the glories of the working class while living a life of luxury in a smart arrondissement of Paris – who are rescued from their follies by a couple of American heroes. Not something we’re likely to see any time soon.

And only one Ealing comedy (The Ladykillers at no 43)? What about Kind Hearts and Coronets?

Comments

  1. mike Avatar
    mike

    Funny how comedic tastes change with one’s age, Carry On was hilarious when I was 13; now it seems puerile. ‘Bill and Ted’ and ‘Wayne’s World’ are hilarious when you’re 19. But ‘Kingpin’, ‘Withnail’ and ‘Life of Brian’ are eternal and rightly so.

  2. marc w Avatar
    marc w

    I should point out that Michael Moore’s american grotesque charicatures have done splendidly in France.
    I was debating Mel Brooks films with someone recently – I haven’t seen The Producers, but I find his entire output remarkably idiotic and broad. Not absurdist, not surreal, not witty- just dumb. I’ve never understood his status as comedic genius, but I’ve always thought comedy ages particularly poorly.
    I’ll have to check out my personal fave ‘The Big Lebowski’ in a few decades…

  3. P. Froward Avatar

    “The Producers”, “Young Frankenstein”, and “Blazing Saddles” are among the greatest achievements of modern civilization. In centuries to come, Brooks will be mentioned in the same breath as Homer, Virgil, William Shakespeare, and Larry Niven.

  4. John Barr Avatar
    John Barr

    In fairness to AFCW, you’d have to say Kevin Kline’s Otto was a pretty sterotypical American Idiot.

  5. Dom Avatar
    Dom

    “a couple of vibrant and neurosis-free Americans”.
    I was going to say the same thing as John Barr. Actually, both characters are American grotesques — rude, money-grubbing, crooked, loud, cheating. The British characters, by contrast, seem rather friendly. That speech by Cleese seemed like just love-struck rambling. At least that’s the way we saw it here in America.
    It’s funny how the two countries view each other. I hear the British say, eg, that Agatha Christy was a sno (!?!). No one in America sees that.
    Dom

  6. Dom Avatar
    Dom

    Sorry, I meant “Agatha Christy was a snob”.
    Dom

  7. Paul Moloney Avatar

    Eh? Kevin Kline’s character? “Vibrant and neurosis-free”? He was the craziest of the lot of them.
    P.

  8. Mick H Avatar
    Mick H

    I’m not saying the Kevin Kline character is nice, or fully-rounded, or a credit to his country – he’s weird, no question, but at least he’s forceful, dominant – vibrant even – compared to the pathetic repressed Brits. Obviously it looks different from an American perspective.

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