The Condescension of Posterity

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e, and Dan turned up a newspaper report of the time, noting how charming she looked. “Patronising” was his verdict, and I thought, yes, that’s the word alright – but you, not them. The whole tone of the programme is patronising. “The enormous condescension of posterity” in EP Thompson’s phrase. We get silly little reconstructed tableaux of Mitchell and Kenyon and their co-workers in silent comedy mode. We get constant reminders of how backward these people were; of how they may look like they’re happy and having a good time, but really their lives were awful. And then we get some (wonderful) shots of a parade, including – oh dear! – people blacked up as golliwogs. “They didn’t realise they were being racist.” Well maybe, just possibly, they weren’t being racist: you simply cannot judge people then by today’s standards. As the programme went into a “black” section, with every shot analysed to see if there was someone of African descent in the frame or not, it wasn’t clear to me that we were, as the programme makers liked to think, looking back at these ignorant primitives from some enlightened perspective where we’ve at last got all this race stuff sorted out.

Got that off my chest. I’ll still be watching the rest of the series.

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  1. Michael Avatar

    You might like to know that two Mitchell & Kenyon DVDs are being readied for imminent release – the first containing the three-part BBC series, the second (titled ‘Electric Edwardians’) featuring a selection of the films with a choice of music track or a commentary by historian Vanessa Toulmin. I haven’t seen the latter yet (and aren’t 100% certain of the contents), but it might well be an antidote to those who don’t find Cruickshank appealing.
    More details at http://www.bfi.org.uk/videocat/more/mitchellandkenyon/index.html

  2. Eamonn Avatar
    Eamonn

    This is one of the best things on tv at present. The films are just wonderful, irrespective of the commentary. Funny to think that everyone on them is dead – many of the lads will have died 15 years later in the Great War.
    Fatty Foulkes for ever!

  3. Mick H Avatar
    Mick H

    Yes, Fatty “who ate all the pies” Foulkes was wonderful.

  4. Anthony Avatar

    As a Blackburner I have found the series fascinating. You are spot on about Cruickshank though. Moments after describing the short lives of the people working factories at the time, he starts bemoaning that we have lost something because people can’t wander about and chat in the middle of a road in Nottingham town centre.
    Cruickshank reminded me of Capstick comes home.
    We med us own fun in them days.
    Do you know, when I were a lad you could get a tram down into t’town, buy three new suits an’ an ovvercoat, four pair o’ good boots, go an’ see George Formby at t’Palace Theatre, get blind drunk, ‘ave some steak an’ chips, bunch o’ bananas an’ three stone o’ monkey nuts an’ still ‘ave change out of a farthing.
    We’d lots o’ things in them days they ‘aven’t got today – rickets, diptheria, Hitler and my, we did look well goin’ to school wi’ no backside in us trousers an’ all us little ‘eads painted purple because we ‘ad ringworm.
    They don’t know they’re born today!!!
    http://www.monologues.co.uk/Capstick_Comes_Home.htm

  5. Liam Avatar
    Liam

    ally far from perfect.
    I seem to remember that he made a number of errors in the second programme, one of which was claiming that cricket was played at Old Trafford (should be Trafford Park surely). Thank goodness we’ll be able to see the films without him – it has been immensely gratifying to see the world in which my grandparents grew up.
    As for the racist epithet – I thought that racism was a conscious or deliberate attempt to view others as inferior, possibly with the intention of manipulation. Cruikshank clearly thinks otherwise.

  6. Andrew C Avatar
    Andrew C

    Well, I liked Dan Cruickshank’s style of presentation, and what you read as “condescension” I read as affectionate nostalgia.
    As to the specific points you mention:
    1. The newspaper report of the Birmingham graduation ceremony. What Cruickshank found “patronising” was the use of the term “girl-graduate”. I seem to remember that Dorothy L. Sayers, in Gaudy Night (1935), objects to the same term as being both a platitude and a put-down of woman graduates — so Cruickshank’s comment doesn’t seem unreasonable.
    2. The racism question. You omit to mention that the parade scenes included not only “people blacked up as golliwogs” but also a tableau entitled “Sambo’s Christening” — for which, I suspect, the term “racist’ might not be so inappropriate. I think Cruickshank’s remark was intended as a defence, arguing that if it was racist, it was only unconsciously so — i.e. “they DIDN’T KNOW they were being racist”.
    However, I agree with you about the silent-comedy scenes of Mitchell and Kenyon gesticulating at each other — a pointless distraction from the films themselves.

  7. P Cook Avatar
    P Cook

    anied by piano Ragtime when shown to American audiences. A racy version of something like Scott Joplin’s “Maple Leaf Rag”, a popular Ragtime piano piece, published in 1899 seems very fitting for this piece.

  8. Carrie Avatar
    Carrie

    Dan Cruickshank is a superb presenter. His enthusiasm washes over you and draws you in. Unlike David Starkey, for example who is, like his name suggests – stark and uninviting. Also Simon Schama – fiddles about, uncomfortable – as though he cares not a jot. But Dan has a wonderful warmth, a passion. And in reality he’s even more enthusiastic and warm and extremely committed to his causes. Maybe if you knew him and had talked to him one on one like myself you might change your mind about his intelligent approach.

  9. Heenee Avatar
    Heenee

    Fuck me I’d do him!

  10. Tony Westbrook Avatar
    Tony Westbrook

    The DVD and the comments have all been a marvellous experience….DVD: I keep going back on forth with it and sadness suddenly overcame me . Futile questions about it’s people. Yet they all looked happy at least, if only for that special moment, to be noticed and hopefully appreciated regardless of their ‘position’ in that infamous ‘caste system’ I have been a student of the Edwardian epoch since seeing it. Thank you, Tony Westbrook

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